This is a discussion on another forum between a Catholic and a born again believer:
Q: Would you please answer the more direct question: Do you believe salvation is by works.... all or in part?
A: You are going to be surprised my sister. Salvation is only by the BLOOD OF CHRIST.
However this is not done in one shot and after that the saved person can be another Hitler. NO, if you are on this holy road leading you to salvation, then Love and the Spirit of the Lord are so strong in you that you cannot do anything but His work and you cannot be anything but a disciple of Him.
Saying that we can save ourselves on our own is denying the ultimate sacrifice of CHRIST for us on the cross.
Speaking of salvation, I think someone doing the devil's work has never been on the road of salvation yet, despite the fact that he/she claims to be saved by the blood of Christ.
So it is your turn to please answer the more direct question:
Do you believe that someone "saved" is still capable to rape, kill, steal, put war and hatery among others ?
Response: That is a most difficult question for someone with my feeble mind to answer. This gets into the "once saved/always saved" and "salvation can be lost" argument. It also begs the question if someone who is very mentally ill, but has received Christ as Savior is truly saved if out of mental illness they do wrong things.
There is no one easy answer to any of this, and if there was it would surely not be something for me to speak. I am not God. Only HE knows the heart. And if we are not saved by works but by grace, is it possible to lose our salvation by bad works? Or must we lose faith and therefore grace as well?
Your question only raises more questions. I know only my heart, and even then darkly. The Lord knows my heart better than I do. If I do not fully know my own heart, how can I possibly speak about the hearts of others? I refer you to my Adonai for this answer. I doubt anyone here is so perfect in understanding to know.
I'm looking for further comment on this. Angela
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