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Re: Scientific Identification of Life

January 18, 2009 by pastord

I think that cloning is another example of humanistic arrogance... humans thinking they can be God.  On the one hand I am not especially threatened by it - because the "life" of any being comes from God and the individuals are God's creatures even if they were conceived in odd ways.

On the other hand, when cloning is being done, many clones die before birth and others are killed for experimental purposes.  The scientists doing the cloning think of themselves as owners of what they have "created." 

If they start practicing the cloning of humans, will they still think of themselves as owners?  Will they think (as I suspect they will) that they have a right over the cloned humans, to give life and to kill?  Will they be owners or parents of the cloned children?  Will cloned children be a commodity to be sold to labs and used in testing drugs and treatments or as ingredients in medicines?

It gives me the creeps.

Re: Scientific Identification of Life

January 17, 2009 by pastord

I agree. 

Assuming that they can make all of the parts - they still don't know how to make it alive.  They have missed something important between working with their computer models and working with real things.  They can't even resurrect something that was alive a moment ago to live again - because they don't know what life is or its source.

Recently I read a post somewhere by someone who argued that if God can be eternal, then matter could also be eternal.  It struck me that this was irrelevant on several levels.

For one thing, no one has ever observed matter organizing itself into complex systems - everything tends toward entropy.

For another, even if matter independently developed into complex systems, no one has ever come close to isolating "life" as the animating force of living beings.  The life and the material being are not identical with each other.  When life is present the material being lives - when life is absent the material being ceases living.  But having a material being is not even close to being the same thing as being alive.

Scientific Identification of Life

January 14, 2009 by pastord

More than a year ago I saw an article that claimed a group was close to creating "artificial life." They had plans for creating all of the parts of a cell, including their own new version of DNA. Within a few years they expected to create this single cell life form and then stand back to watch it develop through evolution.

My question is, "What will make their cell come to life?" As far as I know, there is no one in science who has isolated a life force of any kind. They certainly can tell the difference between something that is alive and things that are not, but they don't know what the force is that makes it so.

Has anyone heard of any other claims or discoveries along this line?

Thanks,
PastorD